Comments on: I already told you once, It’s Not Porn!

By: Cianna

Cianna — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:26:03 +0000

Thanks all for watching the trailer. To answer your questions, Stacy: I am curious in particular about what happens to the women who have never modeled before as they get more involved with Zivity. Even at the beginning their self-image changes, and once they become more well known for doing sexy pictures I’m wondering how it will affect the rest of their lives. I’m also curious about how Zivity does intend to carry through on their stated intention to shake up the current standards of beauty. They are also going to be involved in the ongoing debate about what is and is not pornographic, a question which I think is interesting to pursue and am happy that this can be a vehicle for that discussion.

I’m at the early stages of filming this project and don’t know where the stories will go — but that is the joy of being a documentarian!

By: flahute

flahute — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:14:53 +0000

I have already asked Cyan Banister (founder and CEO) when they will be adding beefcake to the cheesecake, for those who lead alternative lifestyles (or simply have different gender preferences in what they like to view as erotic art).

Many of the photoshoots do have a fetishistic bent to them, and many of the pictorials are also non-nude; modern interpretations of pin-up shots from the mid-20th Century.

Have you experienced what Zivity has to offer, or are you only going off the trailer?

If you want/need an invite to Zivity, please let me know, and I’m happy to share.

By: Stacy Wright

Stacy Wright — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:53:29 +0000

“…challenging who defines ’sexy’”

I don’t think Zivity challenges who or what is defined as “sexy” at all. Zivity is creating the same voyeurism about the same subjects that have always been considered sexy by the establishment: young women scantily clad or naked for the pleasure of straight heterosexual men.

How is this challenging, or different, from anything done before? Maybe the way they pay the women and photographers is new (voting resulting in future subscription fees being shared with women/photographers). But who and what is sexy at Zivity has nothing new. It’s the same old stuff. And the voyeurs are the same: straight men. How is that different?

So far the trailer for the documentary is just a love note to Zivity. Is Stewart skeptical that it will work out for women who don’t have careers in the porn industry to enter it? What happens to their careers when their otherwise non-porn lives are exposed to the porn they engage in? What happens if they are ruined and can’t work anymore in what they once did? Is Zivity going to help them? Or just laugh all the way to the bank?

When does Zivity start allowing images that are non-standard — instead of young women shot in arousing poses for straight men, non-standard might mean gay men for gay men, or lesbian women for lesbian women or fetish porn shots? Right now, Zivity isn’t doing anything innovative, and Stewart doesn’t seem to be making a documentary that does anything to question this, or ask any hard questions.

This trailer is more like an advertisement for Zivity.

By: flahute

flahute — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:24:03 +0000

Get out? And do what? Ride my bikes?

I’ve known Cianna for over 10 years; gotta help out an artist. You should check out some of her other work.

By: the mop

the mop — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:11:27 +0000

I know it’s not porn, but you could get out more..

By: Theresa

Theresa — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:01:17 +0000

You have to know why?! That smacks a little of voyeurism.